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- Date: Thu, 14 Jul 94 04:30:19 PDT
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- Subject: Ham-Policy Digest V94 #308
- To: Ham-Policy
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-
- Ham-Policy Digest Thu, 14 Jul 94 Volume 94 : Issue 308
-
- Today's Topics:
- Emergency transmissions
- Re: CW ... My view.
- VK Licence
-
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- policies or positions of any party. Your mileage may vary. So there.
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-
- Date: Wed, 13 Jul 94 03:35:15 GMT
- From: netcomsv!netcomsv!skyld!jangus@decwrl.dec.com
- Subject: Emergency transmissions
- To: ham-policy@ucsd.edu
-
- More food for the armchair lawyers to fight over.
-
- If you're on a commercial airline, and you have a life threatening
- emergency, can you use your HT to request help? Can you use it in
- the commercial aircraft band is so modified?
-
- 73 es GE from Jeff
-
-
-
- Amateur: WA6FWI@WA6FWI.#SOCA.CA.USA.NOAM | "You have a flair for adding
- Internet: jangus@skyld.grendel.com | a fanciful dimension to any
- US Mail: PO Box 4425 Carson, CA 90749 | story."
- Phone: 1 (310) 324-6080 | Peking Noodle Co.
-
- Hate "Green Card Lottery"? Want to help curb ignorant crossposting on Usenet?
- E-mail ckeroack@hamp.hampshire.edu for more information, or read news.groups.
-
- ------------------------------
-
- Date: Wed, 13 Jul 1994 13:43:38 GMT
- From: ihnp4.ucsd.edu!swrinde!cs.utexas.edu!wotan.compaq.com!twisto.eng.hou.compaq.com!news@network.ucsd.edu
- Subject: Re: CW ... My view.
- To: ham-policy@ucsd.edu
-
- >>>I support your right to use CW if you wish. I will not ask that it be
- >>>banned.
- >>>
- >>Decent of you.
- >
- >Yes, too bad the pro-cw-testing group are not as decent. Forcing someone
- >to learn one mode over another when no single mode is the end all to RF
- >is, plainly, silly.
- >
- >Dan
- >--
- Exactly my point. No single mode is an end all. Therefore we should strive to
- learn as many as possible. Many people considered the Advanced test to be
- the hardest of all the exams, mostly because it covered the more bizarre modes:
- RTTY et. al., SSTV, ATV, and fax. No surprise that some people consider the
- CW test to be the most difficult, but it must be included to provide any operator
- with a well rounded expertise in all the available modes.
-
- It is surprising how many ops on VHF SSB can't switch over to CW to make a QSO
- during weak signal conditions. That's a shame.
-
- Earl Morse
- KZ8E
- KZ8E@bangate.compaq.com
- "If you don't know the code you're only getting half a band."
-
- ------------------------------
-
- Date: 13 Jul 1994 09:00:52 GMT
- From: ihnp4.ucsd.edu!dog.ee.lbl.gov!agate!howland.reston.ans.net!swrinde!pipex!warwick!news.shef.ac.uk!stoat5!me2ggc@network.ucsd.edu
- Subject: VK Licence
- To: ham-policy@ucsd.edu
-
- I currently hold a VK (restricted) licence and it will run out by the end of
- August 94. I am no longer residing in Sydney but can anyone tell me if I can
- still continue to hold this licence, even if I am not in Aust. anymore?
-
- Thanks.
-
- Guan CHEW (VK2XZX)
- The University of Sheffield,
- England.
-
- e-mail: g.g.chew@sheffield.ac.uk
-
- ------------------------------
-
- Date: Wed, 13 Jul 1994 11:27:17 GMT
- From: ihnp4.ucsd.edu!agate!blanket.mitre.org!world!drt@network.ucsd.edu
- To: ham-policy@ucsd.edu
-
- References <1994Jul4.215649.7590@ke4zv.atl.ga.us>, <070694023831Rnf0.78@amcomp.com>, <1994Jul12.163536.884@ke4zv.atl.ga.us>
- Subject : Re: Existing regulations limit our advancement.
-
- Gary Coffman (gary@ke4zv.atl.ga.us) wrote:
-
- : Now this wouldn't mean much *except* that page 1-12 says that the
- : interpretations presented in the book are FCC approved interpretations
- : of the rules, and are backed by original intent during rulemaking and
- : by case law.
-
- Oh, dear. Reverse autopatch is in deep trouble. That "FCC approved"
- stuff is still in the book (on page 1-10), and page 14-9 has the following:
-
- "No unlicensed person may initiate an amateur transmission. Incoming
- calls, as previously mentioned, must be answered and screened off the
- air by the control operator (who must be a licensed amateur) to ensure
- rule compliance. The use of a reverse autopatch is permitted only
- under very limited condition."
-
- I ignored this because I figured that is was merely ARRL opinion and I
- couldn't find any "answered and screened" language in the actual
- rules, only a responsibility to somehow insure rules compliance. If
- actual FCC interpretation is behind that paragraph, the "telemetry"
- excuse is out of court and reverse patches are nearly useless after
- all.
-
- -drt
-
- ------------------------------------------------------------------------
- |David R. Tucker KG2S 8P9CL drt@world.std.com|
- ------------------------------------------------------------------------
-
- ------------------------------
-
- Date: 13 Jul 1994 11:17:53 -0400
- From: ihnp4.ucsd.edu!swrinde!howland.reston.ans.net!news.intercon.com!news1.digex.net!digex.net!not-for-mail@network.ucsd.edu
- To: ham-policy@ucsd.edu
-
- References <378@doghouse.win.net>, <2vsae6$fsv@chnews.intel.com>, <071294174505Rnf0.78@amcomp.com>
- Subject : Re: Does CW as a pre-req REALLY Work?
-
- If the code requirement is removed but a REAL technical test is used, I'm
- afraid we'd have a new group of lids unable to copy, let alone send (unless
- they're using their computers, and we know how well computers copy, dont't
- we?) Anyway, I'll always favor a minimum CW requirement at the very least.
-
-
- Andy N3LCW, CW mobile...
-
- ------------------------------
-
- Date: 13 Jul 1994 11:18:28 -0400
- From: ihnp4.ucsd.edu!swrinde!howland.reston.ans.net!news.intercon.com!news1.digex.net!digex.net!not-for-mail@network.ucsd.edu
- To: ham-policy@ucsd.edu
-
- References <Csrn6B.Ant@news.hawaii.edu>, <2vuhl0$9mr@chnews.intel.com>, <CsuFws.L8u@news.Hawaii.Edu>mai
- Subject : Re: Does CW as a pre-req
-
- In article <CsuFws.L8u@news.Hawaii.Edu>, Jeffrey Herman wrote:
- > In article <2vuhl0$9mr@chnews.intel.com> CecilMoore@delphi.com writes:
- >
- > But Cec, we don't see half of all transportation being conducted via
- > horses. But that IS the case with CW, where about half of all QSO's
- > on HF are conducted using code. Count 'em! And CW-only radios are
- > selling briskly (reference: QRP newsgroup).
- >
- >...
- > Jeff NH6IL
- >
-
- CW, the mode that all international intelligence agencies view as the
- most effective comm method.
-
- Andy
-
- ------------------------------
-
- Date: 13 Jul 1994 11:18:12 -0400
- From: ihnp4.ucsd.edu!swrinde!howland.reston.ans.net!news.intercon.com!news1.digex.net!digex.net!not-for-mail@network.ucsd.edu
- To: ham-policy@ucsd.edu
-
- References <40.7746.2426@channel1.com>, <Csrn6B.Ant@news.hawaii.edu>, <2vuhl0$9mr@chnews.intel.com>.digex.n
- Subject : Re: Does CW as a pre-req
-
- In article <2vuhl0$9mr@chnews.intel.com>, CecilMoore@delphi.c wrote:
- >
- > You have hit the nail on the head as to what is wrong with ham radio today.
- > ...too much history and not enough science, engineering, and mathematics.
- > Come on, Jeff, we are approaching the 21st century. Morse code is to
- > radio what horses are to transportation.
- >
- > 73, KG7BK, OOTC, CecilMoore@delphi.com
- >
- Everyone's screaming about CW being ancient compared to digital; what the
- heck is CW anyway, carrier-ON, carrier-OFF, that's as digital as you're
- going to get. I think someone missed the technical point of what true
- digital communications is...perhaps add advanced technology to a
- tried and tested mode; synchronous CW anyone?
-
- Andy N3LCW
-
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- End of Ham-Policy Digest V94 #308
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